Huntn00 @Huntn00@talkedabout.social

@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @mloxton @RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social I’m just looking to have civil conversations. I’m open minded about anarchy, but have difficulty seeing a path to it without a total breakdown and maybe that’s where we’re headed. It has been an energized discussion, but you’re always going to run into people who resist the idea of anarchy as being superior. If we are to make it into the future, especially off the planet. We need to get ourselves organized.

@RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social
Too everyone- I’m getting fatigued with the conversation, everyone has stated their positions without agreement. I’ll agree to disagree. For all of the pro-anarchy arguments, you don’t have a single example of a large a modern anarchist society, and you’ve not proven it is superior from a lesser violence standpoint, and finally it is no where adequate to navigate the Great Filter which requires broad cooperation. My experience is that just won’t happen.

@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @mloxton Those groups organized into settlements, and then settlements aligned with each other, and the next thing you know States and Countries, all for security. :)

@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @mloxton Yes mass violence, agreed commited by people. Questions? 😉 Still looking for the reason why anarchy is the silver bullet that counters the violent tendency of human beings. 🤔 I don’t want to hear about the Bronze Age, but today, how it would be implemented. I can actually see a more peaceful, less destructible path towards socialism than towards anarchy.

@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @mloxton for group security, humans will organize into groups. Arguably warlords gain power by force and they are countered by other groups, a counter force, possibly, ideally democratic. For you, that might be called the state. My guess is you object to states because they scoop up territory, but we used to have territories. And they decided it was in their best interest to become a state, for security. 🤔

@RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social in a nutshell, Luddites feared technology because of job displacement. Enclosure, I’ll have to look that up to tell you if I’m familiar with it or not.🙂

@mloxton @HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @foolishowl IMO, whether you have competence and professionalism in your work is a standard separate from a chosen economic or political system. It has to do with safety to yourself and those around you.

@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @mloxton @foolishowl @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social As long as humans are involved, there is no ideal system, there are better systems that promote equality and democracy as long as the majority insist on these standards. That is not the record. Your arguments that anarchy is the silver bullet is your opinion, but to get there IMO will involve mass destruction, which may happen on our current path as is. 🤔

@RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social you are absolutely correct we’re a large group of people with different views and unfortunately, a lot of us are selfish, we tend to be sheep, and we hardly ever agree on a single path forward. I don’t think anyone in this conversation hopes you’re naïve, informed is much better. 🙂

@gdeihl This is huge, young adults win a land mark environmental case in a conservative State. After all it’s the world trashed they are inheriting. As a rule all the young adults need to get active in our political system and toss out the Yahoos taking us,taking the world down. Fingers crossed they stay grounded and work for us all. But…where does it go from here? 🤔

@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @foolishowl @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social You need to clarify.

@RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social Of course I know about Luddites 🙂 I won’t argue about violence, agreed, part and parcel of humanity and change. Bottom line manufacturing was the future as it developed, could make more money in the factory than on the farm. Workers flocked to it. It’s a complete fallacy to argue the species today would be better as anarchists because we as a species did not choose anarchy. Maybe someday we will. 🤔