Huntn00 @Huntn00@talkedabout.social

@selzero @Huntn00 @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social In a Representative Democracy, Republic how do you avoid compromise? 🤔 I think we agree we don’t want to go into GOP Power Grab Mode, but if you look at #GOP tactics today, isn’t that what they are doing, forcing their ideology down everyone’s throats?

@selzero @Huntn00 @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social True, but look at the history of revolution the odds are against peaceful transitions.

@maggiemaybe @selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Umm, if more people voted Blue, you’d see the Democrats acting more like liberals. They in most places, are always having to look over their political shoulders. I’m not a Demicrat, but I look at the choices, Red is out, Socialist won’t get elected. I’d have voted Sanders if he had won the Dem nomination.

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social because it would not have passed?

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social The difference today, is that as of about 20 years ago, automation was reported to be able to replace 75% of the jobs if business wanted to pay for it. If you look at the trend the middle class has steadily shrunk for the last 4 decades in the US due to job exportation.. Now we are approaching something that simulates the human brain, and all bets are off when the first corporation replaces a job or thousand of jobs, maybe more, with AI driven tech, 🤔

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social I did not, have not, taken Revolution off the table, I said it could be inevitable. I don’t believe that would be ideal, but I really can’t claim to know how Revolution would unfold, nor how many would die…🤔

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social I want to know how you avoid compromise in a Democratic representative system? There is no such thing as just dictating to the other side (ok tell that to the GOP 🤔) You either have the votes or you don’t. And I believe if the majority would get off their asses and vote, the #GOP would be vanquished as a threat to the country as it currently exists.

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Obama pushed as hard as he could. You either work within the agreed to structure and get what you can get, or you do as the GOP is currently doing, breaking the system in an attempt to hold power. Once we start start down the cheat to win path, either the majority throws out the cheaters, or there is a breakdown, and imo, it will be surprising in any drastic change, if there is not much bloodshed. That could end up being inevitable. 🤔

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social 3) The big money will fight vigorously to preserve what it has. Revolution followed by anarchy for a time, maybe inevitable. I’m saying now quite often that automation and AI may help reach the tipping point when Capitolism can no longer hold the system as it exists together.

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social 2) In any given district, you either have the votes or you don’t based on the ideas of the politician.

The problem as I see it are voters, bigotry, intolerance and selfishness, but also people who are struggling economically and pick whatever boogey man that’s in (or placed in) their heads.
The direct contributor is Capitolism. And since we can’t seem to control it, the challenge is how to change it, with agreement, and not a revolution. (Cont)

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social 1) First of all If Capitolism can’t be reigned in, then I’m against it. This is probably a given I can’t.
I watched the video linked, and it is good overall, but my critiques are, in a Democracy, in any system, good ideas are good ideas and unfortunately if you want to get things passed in a representative system, compromise is required. This is the structure of Representation and liberals working within it. (Cont)

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social I looked up some definitions, and I’ll agmit that I did not realize socialism in some defs, included collective ownership, which I’m not sold on. So I admit there is a difference. I was thinking in terms of social benefit, social safety nets, medical programs, education, housing and substinance.
Please describe why you are insulted if mistaken as liberal. A difference I see is private ownership, depending on def used.
https://www.wordnik.com/words/liberalism
https://www.wordnik.com/words/socialism