@Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Just remember you have to be able to be electable regardless of how liberal you’d like to be. Democrats have been hindered by this reality for decades. 🤔

@selzero @Huntn00 @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social How do you differentiate? Liberals can be socialists. Socialists are definitely liberal. 😉

@Huntn00 @Radical_EgoCom

I'm a socialist.

I am definitely not liberal. I find it insulting when I am mistaken for one.

I don't share political views with Hilary Clinton / Joe Biden / etc. I find them to be enablers of the right wing.

Maybe this can help you understand.

youtu.be/Q5bask6cQ4k?si=zqlTwh

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social I looked up some definitions, and I’ll agmit that I did not realize socialism in some defs, included collective ownership, which I’m not sold on. So I admit there is a difference. I was thinking in terms of social benefit, social safety nets, medical programs, education, housing and substinance.
Please describe why you are insulted if mistaken as liberal. A difference I see is private ownership, depending on def used.
wordnik.com/words/liberalism
wordnik.com/words/socialism

@Huntn00 @Radical_EgoCom

My definition of socialism linked (more on the thread)

I'm not against markets or private ownership. I believe all our systems should be resources to benefit mankind, instead of mankind being a resource to benefit our systems.

Sometimes markets and private ownership are good.

syzito.xyz/@selzero/1107949942

@Huntn00 @Radical_EgoCom

The insulting part: 2 things and I believe we have a Stockholm Syndrome blindness to them.

1- Normalizing the right by compromising on things.For example. Obama should have gone all out and put in place a universal healthcare system. He should have pushed the system to it's limits in the same way the right is doing about abortion. But he caved to corporate pressure. This compromising with the philosophy that human health is an economic resource is barbaric.

@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Obama pushed as hard as he could. You either work within the agreed to structure and get what you can get, or you do as the GOP is currently doing, breaking the system in an attempt to hold power. Once we start start down the cheat to win path, either the majority throws out the cheaters, or there is a breakdown, and imo, it will be surprising in any drastic change, if there is not much bloodshed. That could end up being inevitable. 🤔

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@selzero @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social because it would not have passed?

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