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@EmbraceBecoming@kolektiva.social @SocialistStan@mymastadon.link @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social @HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social Honestly I have a hard time picturing anarchy developing as described. States, then countries form specifically because of external threats from groups of other human beings. Imo an organized group of people working together as a matter of routine will overcome small groups of independent “my rules” anarchists in a fight for territory.

@Lightfighter @mloxton @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social As far as sophomoric views of anarchy, I’d counter with don’t make anarchy out to be all peaches and cream. This is humanity. There will be good and bad, and warlords and the required organization, structure and despised hierarchy to counter those leaders and their supporters seeking power.

@chrixmaru@kolektiva.social @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social … or a tipping point is reached and we collapse into… anarchy, whatever anyone likes to make out of that. I’m not critical of anarchy supporters, just questioning how viable it is from the standpoint of getting our collective act together to not destroy the billions of ourselves. Check out The Great Filter. 🤔

@chrixmaru@kolektiva.social @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social I’ll clarify that I’m not a capitalism defender, once thought it could work with hard core regulations, social safety nets, guarantees of free education, job training, and medical care. But I’m starting to think that the required oversights and control over it, to work for the vast majority, it might no longer be called Capitalism. 🤔

@chrixmaru@kolektiva.social @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Capitalism has been the greatest wealth generator ever conceived. The issue is it’s not designed to make everyone wealthy, large numbers struggle under it, people are taken advantage of by it. I predict it will struggle or fail with automation and AI when a tipping point is reached. Yet, I don’t accept anarchy as inherently better. TFYI/O.

@chrixmaru@kolektiva.social @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social With automation and AI, I predict Capitalism is heading for a cliff. The tipping point is when the majority can’t find meaningful employment, At this point, you’d better hope there is broad consensus about a new direction, and a government willing to seize the moment in our favor or it’s gonna be much worse than better. 🤔

@spoons@kolektiva.social @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social The human species is just muddling along to our demise. Climate change is a serious threat, along with food disruption. Collectively despite being warned for 40 freaking years, we are not doing enough because “it costs too much”. Most of us are sheep, the Capitalists are harvesting all the wealth they can, “let’s worry about this tomorrow” is the motto. The smart ones spoke out but were ignored as we role towards the edge. Questions? 🤔

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Liberal war crimes?. Thanks for the discussion. It’s liberals that are fighting for Trans rights. Conservatives want to lock you away. Take care.

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social With vaccines it has been proven that to be effective the herd must be vaccinated. With COVID, THE ANTI-vaccers prolonged the crisis.

@mloxton @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social And more and more metric is showing up in the grocery store..

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social I have yet to see a single argument why anarchy is superior for groups of people, or individuals en mass.

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Is this your argument why anarchy is better?

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Human beings by nature are tribal. Not sure if you are addressing me, but if you are, I’m not swooning over Capitalism . I’m critical of C. I’m just telling you how I see things regarding anarchy, which you disagree with. I’ll propose that if anarchy was most closely aligned with the nature of humans, we would see anarchy as the standard, but it’s not a standard widely practised.

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social There will be no voluntary change to anarchy, because it means significant economic disruption. Therefore to achieve anarchy requires a breakdown, an event that will be accompanied by death, a lot of death as new norms and power centers are established or resisted. This would not be a peaceful process not as I imagine it. Feel free to disagree. 🙃

@mloxton @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social I’ll check back in later and see if @Azazel is in the mood to talk about this without losing his/her cool. In my view getting to anarchy means huge numbers of deaths and no guarantee after the dust settles my life would be any better, that is if I’m still alive. 🙃

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social As I said, I’m open to alternatives, but imo it is completely naive to think that anarchy will be a better deal for you. Ok, I get you are willing to take the chance. I just think the odds of getting there, living, and ending up in a better place is not by any means assured.

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Not directed at me, but I grew up benefitting from Capitalism, but recognize it flaws, shortcomings, I speak against it, am open to viable alternatives, and I don’t think it can or will survive into the future. 🤔

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social None of us are responsible for what our ancestors did, unless we like what they did. These type of insults hinder the conversation, degrade it. We see this in the States with slavery in a country created based on equal rights-haha. A big can of worms. So please stop with this kind of attack unless you really don’t want to discuss it and stay civil. 🤔

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social That is your opinion. Ok so who is your best friend that’s going to ensure you get the equal rights you deserve to have?