@fabio

this is a really fucking stupid take

we can commemorate jews killed in the holocaust

and we can condemn israel's actions

at the same time

saying we can only do one or the other is moronic

"we caught a rapist, so we should stop passing judgment on this other rapist, because it might hurt this current rapist's feelings"

you're not after justice nor morality here

you're using some utterly stupid equating of different events and different people

@benroyce didn't you know that all Jews are Israeli and all Israelis survived the holocaust? :fozzie_wocka_wocka:

I'll say one thing in a bit of agreement with this clown, though: I would shut down 99% of the holocaust museums, memorials, and education outreach programs. In a snap.

My parents' and grandparents' generations imagined they would help end age-old Jew hatred through memory and history education, but in reality, they just became another thing to detourn against the Jews anyway.

What a giant waste of our community resources for a massive abject mission failure.

@fabio@manganiello.social

@dukepaaron

i don't understand

the holocaust was a monumental evil

it must be recognized and remembered for eternity

i don't give a shit if morons want to twist the meaning of that effort

there's always bigots playing that game. what consideration does that sick game of theirs deserve?

why do you think you're going to be able to avoid their game?

they'll just pick another rationale, another angle

our job is to shut them down, not yield to their venom- in any way, on any terms

@benroyce oops the museums didn't work.

Gentiles think they're to remember some universal evil. My parents thought it would keep me from getting jumped in Jr high for being a kike.

Still got jumped for being jewey. Fuck those museums and every dollar that could have been spent on something useful.

@dukepaaron

certainly what we're talking about affects you far more than it affects me, so it's easy for me to take some grandiose stand, while you're going for the nuance

i just know this:

the slide into fascism starts with little yields, and then they accelerate

so i'm all about standing firm against anything bigots champion, full spectrum, not just this topic

call me a yutz or call me a mensch for that

but call me, i'm listening

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