So I think I could see myself being for vouchers...but only if the school wasn't pushing religion or indoctrinating students with any extremist ideologies. It should also allow it's teachers & staff to unionize. And it should *obviously* have to pass an accreditation.

It should also serve any student who wishes to attend, and should provide transportation to and from school, and breakfast/lunches for any kids that want/need them. In short- this #school for the public...
truthout.org/articles/educatio

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@Incognitim Best reason not to choose Shapiro. The reason not to choose Kelly? We can’t afford to lose a congressional seat. Best bet? Waltz or Pritzger.

@AlliFlowers @Incognitim Kelly’s seat would get appointed by the D governor. It wouldn’t be lost. It would be through at least 2026 appointed by Hobbs. Pritzker brings no swing voters. Shapiro vetoed vouchers over a year ago. It was a concession for Rs that was never going. PA passed a new budget since then. No vouchers. He doesn’t support it.

Praying we can all just support whoever it is and stop speculating. We have like less than 48 hours. We can do it.

@TonyStark @AlliFlowers @Incognitim and there’s a side benefit of Hobbs appointing another Democrat to fill Kelly’s seat; it would take a good qualified Democrat who few people know and give that person a lot of (hopefully) positive state & national exposure. AZ Dems don’t have a deep bench but there’s qualified people there-Hobbs knows them. Ultimately I’m with you-it’s her choice & I’ll be out there cheerleading for the ticket👏

@msmp @AlliFlowers @Incognitim Same. I’ve chosen not to weigh in at all on my personal preferences and just support Harris because I completely trust her judgement. To be honest, I really don’t even have a personal preference to share. I’m focusing on other things.

The only reason I even brought it up is I started seeing some disinformation and sorry to say, antisemitism.

@TonyStark There’s currently a mezuzzah hanging on the door of the vice presidential home. That’s already huge. To have one on the White House? Beyond words. @msmp @Incognitim

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Agree we should stop speculating. We'll know soon enough.
Personally I hope it's not Shapiro if only because it could result in Trump winning Michigan, and also reducing the chances of down ballot MI Democrats.

@jetton @AlliFlowers @Incognitim Well that’s still speculating but ok. Why would Michigan voters have a problem with Shapiro that would actually make them stay home? That sounds insane.

@TonyStark @AlliFlowers @Incognitim

Michigan has a large Arab population, who vote overwhelmingly Democratic.
There is a lot of anger toward Biden over the Gazan war.
[As if he has any influence over Bibi, but that's a different topic.]

The animosity seems not to have carried over to Harris. That would likely change if she chose Shapiro due to the frankly bigoted statements he has made in the past. While his views have changed somewhat since then, I doubt that makes a difference.

@jetton c'mon dems, anyone but Shapiro or Pritzker!

Although Kelly could turn out to be a problem too.

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@dukepaaron @jetton @AlliFlowers @Incognitim@mastodon.social Dude won’t provide me these alleged bigoted statements. Because why bother when you can just insinuate that all Jews suck?

@TonyStark gotta stop those jews one way or another

<slams fist in palm while making a harumph-type face>
@jetton @AlliFlowers @Incognitim

@dukepaaron @jetton @AlliFlowers @Incognitim If I have to answer this crap even one more time. It’s going on with some other fuckface right now.

Mention a Jew- get some lying pushback that people try and disguise as not antisemitism- the Fediverse’s favorite pastime.

@TonyStark

But it does help find who to block. So silver lining?

@dukepaaron @jetton@mastodon.online @AlliFlowers @Incognitim

@jetton oh yeah a Jewish billionaire won't cause any wild conspiracy theory nutso crap that the rest of us have to live with.

Pick the cracker, not the matzo. I would like a break from America's bullshit.

@AlliFlowers @Incognitim

@dukepaaron @AlliFlowers @Incognitim

There will be plenty of "wild conspiracy theory nutso crap" no matter who the VP candidate is.

America's bullshit is a never ending supply.

@jetton seriously. I've got 5ish years before I move out of the US. The US under the Biden administration was normal until Oct 7. I would like to get back to that.

@AlliFlowers @Incognitim

@dukepaaron I don’t skip them. It’s just that I’m running on JST so by the time I arrive, they’re over. @jetton @Incognitim

@dukepaaron Ya know, although I was in Chicago last summer and watched Pritzker sign the new safe gun law, it never occurred to me that he was Jewish. @jetton @Incognitim

@jetton @AlliFlowers @Incognitim So you don’t think Arab voters can vote for a Jew. Awesome. I don’t share your dim view of humanity.

@TonyStark @AlliFlowers @Incognitim

I said nothing of the sort. Of course Arabs would vote for Jews.

It was his statements that Palestinians were not capable of governing themselves, etc. Which were mostly from when he was a college student.
But he is widely perceived to have an anti-Palestinian bias. And perceptions matter, whether valid or not.

The Forward had an article laying out reasons that he would be a poor pick.

forward.com/opinion/640215/kam

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And just to clarify, I'll vote for Harris regardless of her VP pick.

Just worried about Michigan because it can go either way very easily.

@jetton @AlliFlowers @Incognitim@mastodon.social You are incredibly strange. I’d appreciate not following me. Thanks.

@TonyStark @jetton @Incognitim @AlliFlowers JESUS CHRIST HE SAID THAT IN COLLEGE. He’s 51!! Stop the presses!!! 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

Antisemitic prick.

@jetton My perception of.you is that you're an idiot.

@jetton @TonyStark @AlliFlowers @Incognitim I assure you the anger about Gaza has carried over to Harris. There have been protests outside her events, she's been called "Killer Kamala" and painted as just a more "diverse" genocidaire.

@TonyStark @jetton @AlliFlowers @Incognitim I wouldn't underestimate the amount of antisemitism here, even in liberal/progressive circles. Apart from Metro Detroit, most of the state is "never met a Jew" territory. That includes urban areas & college towns.

I follow the worst of my local FB groups so I can keep up with the guys who think everything is a Zionist plot. And I'm guessing many of them voted for Biden in 2020.

@liferstate @TonyStark @AlliFlowers @Incognitim

There's plenty of antisemitism in Michigan to be sure. And it seems to be getting worse.

@TonyStark @jetton @AlliFlowers @Incognitim "I don't have a problem with voting for a Jew, but did you know that *this* Jew [some goyische nonsense here]"

@Incognitim@mastodon.social @TonyStark @jetton@mastodon.online @AlliFlowers The idea that people won’t show up for their own downballot races that affect them but also care tremendously about politics is quite uh, a take.

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