@Oeneus I still find it hilarious that none of them have bothered to look up the definition of "Zionist." It's not a pejorative.

@specked @Oeneus “A land without a people for a people without a land.”

but wait, there’s people there?! lol

@marcelliotnet @Oeneus

A crash course on history of the PALESTINIAN STATE: 

1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE. A little more history for those wanting to 'restore Palestine'. In 132 AD the Emperor Hadrian resolved to stamp the Jews and their religion out of existence. He sold all Jewish prisoners into slavery after the revolt of Bar Kikhba, forbade the teaching of the Torah, renamed the province Syria Palaestina, and changed Jerusalem’s name to Aelia Capitolina. He renamed Israel to wipe out the national identity of Israel and the Jews. So if you are looking to 'restore Palestine to the Palestinians', you need to give it back to the Jews.

Interactive timeline: palquest.org/en/overallchronol

@AlliFlowers @Oeneus @HistoPol They come to me, brimming with enthusiasm but lacking in education. They're what some might call 'useful idiots.' It's baffling to think that with access to Western education, they would choose to align themselves with terrorists.

@specked @AlliFlowers @Oeneus

Not(!) to defend that ignorance, but the history of that region is particularly complicated and when we think of history, how much do we know about the same time span about Indonesia, China, Peru, or even Russia?

It depends on the area that you gave lived in, generally speaking.

What is more, if you did not grow up in the cultural sphere of influence of the #Abrahamaic religions, #Palestine is not one of the most important regions on the globe 🌎 .

@HistoPol @AlliFlowers @Oeneus The difference is that I don't wade into the politics or history of those other countries. Even if I did, my positions wouldn't be grounded in my emotional reaction.

@specked

Now that, indeed, is a clear sign of ignorance (I did not see your exchanges with them.)
@AlliFlowers @Oeneus

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