@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @mloxton for group security, humans will organize into groups. Arguably warlords gain power by force and they are countered by other groups, a counter force, possibly, ideally democratic. For you, that might be called the state. My guess is you object to states because they scoop up territory, but we used to have territories. And they decided it was in their best interest to become a state, for security. 🤔