@lednabwm@mstdn.party I will keep this brief. I know I'm not going to change your mind, that's ok. There is a substantive difference between the Old Testament and the New. Certainly one informs the other, but one also supersedes the other. To jump back and forth quoting both is rather like approaching modern American jurisprudence and then pretending that slavery is still the law of the land. There is plenty to object to in the NT, no need to try to find things in the OT.
@wolleysegap But that’s Christianity in a nutshell. Abandon the Old Testament UNLESS it contains something you really like, and then use it to back up your feelings. @lednabwm
@lednabwm They keep you in line with threats of an afterlife. @wolleysegap
@AlliFlowers Why are christians even using the old testament? Isn't the whole point that they follow the NEW testament, not the old way? @wolleysegap @lednabwm
@BackFromTheDud@mas.to @AlliFlowers@talkedabout.social @lednabwm@mstdn.party The OT is useful as history. That's my take on it, anyway
@wolleysegap History with some folk lore thrown in. @BackFromTheDud @lednabwm
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So, in spite of the vast majority of archeologists agreeing, the story of Moses is fictional and not historical, you think the OT is a history book.
@lednabwm Hey, it says that Moses invented Fly fishing. Oh, wait: That was fish FLYING! My bad, as you were! @wolleysegap @AlliFlowers
@BackFromTheDud 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 @lednabwm @wolleysegap
@lednabwm@mstdn.party @BackFromTheDud@mas.to @AlliFlowers@talkedabout.social Moses? He is credited with writing the first five books. There's a good bit more to the OT than just the first five books
@wolleysegap Don’t try to lump Mishnah and Torah together. The Bible is only the Bible. @lednabwm @BackFromTheDud
@lednabwm Oh I *LOVE* that! @wolleysegap @BackFromTheDud
@wolleysegap @BackFromTheDud @AlliFlowers
😂🤣😂🤣😂 I would say you've got to be kidding, but I already know you're not.
@wolleysegap @BackFromTheDud @AlliFlowers @lednabwm Please point to the history it got correct, as verified by actual historians.....
Because most of what it claims, literally never happened.... No global flood... No Adam & Eve.... No Tower Of Babylon.... No Noah's Ark... No Exodus... No 40 Years wandering in the desert...
So, how is it history, please?
@ClintonAnderson You forgot my favorite biblical alien encounter - the burning bush! @wolleysegap @BackFromTheDud @lednabwm
@ClintonAnderson @wolleysegap @BackFromTheDud @AlliFlowers @lednabwm Trying to argue facts with a believer is a waste of time, the believer finds strength in holding on to faith in spite of facts, for them having faith in the face of contradictory information is a virtue.
You can talk to me all you want about there being no tree god who needs me to honor him, I’m still going to knock on wood. Sure, I’m superstitious and intellectually know it’s dumb, but at least I don’t force it down anybody else’s throat
@CivilityFan @wolleysegap @BackFromTheDud @AlliFlowers @lednabwm I don't have these discussions for the believers....
I have the for everyone to lse, especially for those who are on their way out, who are having doubts....
@BackFromTheDud Exactly! Cause Jesse “fixed” the original. But evidently the dude left out a lot of the ugly, so today’s believers feel it necessary to supplement from the old book. You know, like the part about man not lying with man. I guess they don’t really believe he fixed it. @wolleysegap @lednabwm
@AlliFlowers "Oi! LEVITICUS! I want a word with you, yer great steaming homophobe!!" @wolleysegap @lednabwm
@lednabwm Nod to Moses, maybe that should be a “flying” fuck. 😂🤣😂🤣 @BackFromTheDud @wolleysegap
@BackFromTheDud @AlliFlowers @wolleysegap @lednabwm The name usually used now is "Hebrew Scriptures" to make that exact point: that it's not an 'improvement', it's a section somewhat arbitrarily taken from another faith and people.
Honestly, I think Christians should stop using it all together. It doesn't belong to us and we shouldn't have used it in the first place. It tries to make Judaism seem out of date or inferior, and it's a type of antisemitism that's gone on for too long.
@BackFromTheDud @AlliFlowers @wolleysegap @lednabwm They use whatever suits their personal agenda or self interest. It’s not about “Christianity” …………
@BackFromTheDud @AlliFlowers @wolleysegap @lednabwm When you’re cherry picking text to domineer others, you want as much source material as possible.
@AlliFlowers @wolleysegap