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@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @mloxton @foolishowl @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social As long as humans are involved, there is no ideal system, there are better systems that promote equality and democracy as long as the majority insist on these standards. That is not the record. Your arguments that anarchy is the silver bullet is your opinion, but to get there IMO will involve mass destruction, which may happen on our current path as is. 🤔

@RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social you are absolutely correct we’re a large group of people with different views and unfortunately, a lot of us are selfish, we tend to be sheep, and we hardly ever agree on a single path forward. I don’t think anyone in this conversation hopes you’re naïve, informed is much better. 🙂

@gdeihl This is huge, young adults win a land mark environmental case in a conservative State. After all it’s the world trashed they are inheriting. As a rule all the young adults need to get active in our political system and toss out the Yahoos taking us,taking the world down. Fingers crossed they stay grounded and work for us all. But…where does it go from here? 🤔

@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @foolishowl @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social You need to clarify.

@RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social Of course I know about Luddites 🙂 I won’t argue about violence, agreed, part and parcel of humanity and change. Bottom line manufacturing was the future as it developed, could make more money in the factory than on the farm. Workers flocked to it. It’s a complete fallacy to argue the species today would be better as anarchists because we as a species did not choose anarchy. Maybe someday we will. 🤔

@timo21 It’s really tragic that did not happen.

@RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social I’m not hostile to your views, however it was the Industrial Revolution, large scale manufacturing which drew masses of people out of agriculture into the factories, mass production a new efficient way to create and make a lot of money. We flocked to it. It was more of a natural development. But if you want to be angry be angry at the people in charge People like you and me who had an idea that propelled us as a species forward. 🤔

@RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social @mloxton @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social The answer is cause and effect. There are good and bad people, but collectively I predict we will muddle along and won’t take climate change seriously enough until we start dieing in mass. Right now this should be our top priority, trumping established economic systems, but half of us seem to think it’s a liberal conspiracy to rob them. 😢

@spoons@kolektiva.social @foolishowl @HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social @mloxton management of a nuclear power plant, any complex machinery requires, knowledge, training, set procedures, and intelligence. Economic systems have little to do with these type standards. You either insist on competence and professionalism or you end up with an event and a crisis. 🤔

@spoons@kolektiva.social @HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social Natural refers to the tendencies of human beings and what attracts them, how they function.

@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social How it was forced? Granted the wealthy has always controlled the show outside of revolution. Manufacturing developed, people left the farms because the pay was better. Companies/corporations attracted investors, etc. Under an anarchistic system how do you see manufacturing develop substantially differently?

@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @mloxton @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social I’d say that’s a false conclusion. What changed drastically? Technology changed us. Why did people leave the farms for the cities? Centers of wealth based on technology and production of material goods. Capitalism was a natural path for humanity. Observing not selling, not defending it. 🫣

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social It sounds like or can I infer that tearing it it all down is your solution? 🤔Hypothetical, if you were in a protest and a huge fight started between Proud Boys and Antifa, what side would you pick or would you retreat? Not asked prejudicially.

@JizzelEtBass@kolektiva.social @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social How about in the realm of large scale democracies it has been as successful as we could expect humans to perform? 😉