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@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Is this your argument why anarchy is better?

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Human beings by nature are tribal. Not sure if you are addressing me, but if you are, I’m not swooning over Capitalism . I’m critical of C. I’m just telling you how I see things regarding anarchy, which you disagree with. I’ll propose that if anarchy was most closely aligned with the nature of humans, we would see anarchy as the standard, but it’s not a standard widely practised.

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social There will be no voluntary change to anarchy, because it means significant economic disruption. Therefore to achieve anarchy requires a breakdown, an event that will be accompanied by death, a lot of death as new norms and power centers are established or resisted. This would not be a peaceful process not as I imagine it. Feel free to disagree. 🙃

@mloxton @WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social I’ll check back in later and see if @Azazel is in the mood to talk about this without losing his/her cool. In my view getting to anarchy means huge numbers of deaths and no guarantee after the dust settles my life would be any better, that is if I’m still alive. 🙃

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social As I said, I’m open to alternatives, but imo it is completely naive to think that anarchy will be a better deal for you. Ok, I get you are willing to take the chance. I just think the odds of getting there, living, and ending up in a better place is not by any means assured.

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Not directed at me, but I grew up benefitting from Capitalism, but recognize it flaws, shortcomings, I speak against it, am open to viable alternatives, and I don’t think it can or will survive into the future. 🤔

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social None of us are responsible for what our ancestors did, unless we like what they did. These type of insults hinder the conversation, degrade it. We see this in the States with slavery in a country created based on equal rights-haha. A big can of worms. So please stop with this kind of attack unless you really don’t want to discuss it and stay civil. 🤔

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social That is your opinion. Ok so who is your best friend that’s going to ensure you get the equal rights you deserve to have?

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @mloxton @spoons@kolektiva.social @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Read up on The Great Filter, it’s likely our species won’t be able to navigate it, in essence destroy ourselves. Global warming is one of the shots across our bow. Then you just might see the desired anarchy except it will likely be a pretty shitty place to exist for as long as you are alive to enjoy it. https://www.astronomy.com/science/the-great-filter-a-possible-solution-to-the-fermi-paradox/

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Pragmatically in a democracy you vote for the best option. There is zero guarantee that experiencing a breakdown will put you in a better place. Right now there is a significant group fighting for Trans Rights. To me Democrats sound like your best bet. All bets are off in a wholesale revolution. 🤔

@mloxton Cult leaders, glorified dictators. Just picture how the MAGA cult will function if given free reign to shred the Constitution. “All rise and bow for the Emperor and send over you’re oldest daughter to entertain him”…🫣

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social …and PS all the problems will be the same, deciding the best way to solve problems, finding honest leadership, agreement in the community, and generally speaking finding people willing to share, be fair, and not stab you the back. 🤔

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social I’m not hostile to your opinion, enjoy the discussion. 🙂 Watch one of many post-apocalyptic stories like The Post Man or the Book of Eli. There maybe great communities, but they will be countered by bad communities, inevitable war lords who seize power, have a large band of militant followers who seek to expand their power and control. What the average citizen gets is pot luck.

@mloxton @EmbraceBecoming@kolektiva.social @SocialistStan@mymastadon.link @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social But those organizations if allowed would expand and oppress to function like States, look at the Taliban. 🤔

@mloxton @SocialistStan@mymastadon.link @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Agreed, look at the COVID response, just ignore #LittleDonny’s head in the sand denials, while being first in line to be treated… (that guy is a sad train wreck), we needed a big govt response and we got one.

@WolfChristensen@kolektiva.social @spoons@kolektiva.social @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social I don’t know where you live , but imo the best chance to beat something like Global Warming is to be organized. However, I think we’ll witness via AI and automation, the unraveling of Capitalism, just hope this is an orderly transition towards socialism, or it maybe a full blown breakdown, with the anarchy some of the participants hope for, just hope it’s not a bloody change. 🤔

@EmbraceBecoming@kolektiva.social @mloxton @SocialistStan@mymastadon.link @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social it would be better imo to discuss any modern non-state societies, and why none exist. And if that is desired, how would we ever get there and how could it be better? Look at our impact on the environment, with a non-state organization, what chance would there be of ever getting us all on the same page as far as saving ourselves monumental environmental grief? 🤔

@EmbraceBecoming@kolektiva.social @mloxton @SocialistStan@mymastadon.link @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social Please name some non-state societies or one since technology and the 20th century. 🤔

@SocialistStan@mymastadon.link @mloxton @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social You don’t live in a vacuum. If you have millions of people living together and you hope to get any big things accomplished, like infrastructure, there has to be a level of organization supported by democracy, with an agreed to pay structure. You can either agree to participate or instead maybe wait for the local War Lord’s thugs to appear on your doorstep and dictate, to include dating your daughter.