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@shuro @Radical_EgoCom @Huntn00

I implicitly assumed that the "important" part of exploitation would not be natural resources, but humans/human labor.

I agree that someone could become a stronger opponent if you, for example, take nutrition and materials for weapons and armor into account. This would be only based on resources.

My argument for your example would be either "Who cares for the US?" or "If you really wanted to eliminate a single person, why not just pay for it?"

In the second case, I am not talking about having more money/resources than Bezos, but just enough money/resources to pay a motivated person somewhere in his vincinity to throw him off a cliff.

@shuro @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social That’s what I say, any economic system designed by humans with the best of intentions is more than likely to be corrupted, by…humans. An easy example is Social Security in the USA. Almost from the start it was undermined, robbed the money taken from it for other purposes. Now it’s in trouble and the GOP wants to kill it. We’ll see how that goes. 😳

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@wakame @Radical_EgoCom @Huntn00 > I would imagine this to happen all the time

Because exploitation by definition means gaining vastly more resources and it is kind of hard to topple much stronger opponent?

Also these structures are complicated and diverse. It is not like there's just some lone tower with an usurper sitting in it.

E.g. if some people somewhere in the world are unhappy with Bezos then to topple him they'd have to take on the entire US.

@wakame @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social @shuro I would describe it as taking advantage especially if you think by virtue of individual talents, you deserve much much more. Groups decide they are better because of their achievements and that includes placing others in physical or economic bondage because they can. The more comfortable and larger the tribe gets... Capitalism in the last 60yrs has become atrocious as those at the top think they should live like kings.

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@Huntn00 @Radical_EgoCom @shuro

True. But then again: If humans are inherently exploitative, why not create a group of your own and topple the current group?

I would imagine this to happen all the time if that precondition holds.

The dominating group/class needs military or police to keep the masses at bay?
Now we have an armed group of inherently exploitative people with no natural enemies...

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@wakame @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social @shuro …that is unless you align yourself with a sub-group who you consider to be the dominators. Then you’ll be relatively on top and even expect special treatment by virtue of club membership. 🤔

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@Huntn00 @Radical_EgoCom @shuro

Even if humans were inherently exploitative... it would be in every persons self interest to build a system that minimizes exploitation.

Bad news: You forgo the 0.001% chance of being the exploiter.

Good news: There is also no 99.999% chance you are the exploited.

@8petros @shuro @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social when human beings are in survival situations they cooperate more as I think of a place like early Jamestown where people were dieing left and right.

Yesterday heard an outstanding report on NPR about , the study of nature to understand sexual reproduction across life forms, as a result recognizing a binary choice of sexual reproduction should not be regarded as the norm. Unfortunately I can’t find a link but did locate this:
sierraclub.org/sierra/what-is-

@mikebrew @jann @Jayslacks I view the first 2 GotGs as an evolution, about the relationship between Quill and his Ravager Dad. It’s powerful, but I don’t insist on agreement. 😀 As I said my decision about GotG3 is undecided until I see it again.

@Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social @shuro I agree. When I reference “bad humanity” I’m looking at the collective. Surely we are not all bad, but as far as Mother Earth, NOT team players, and we will destroy ourselves the longer we remain selfish. You’d have to get statistics. An easy observation, but not conclusive is look at the make up of Congress, almost half there are-anti-democracy to manipulate, profit, and to exploit or to persecute. Then ask yourself how many votes do they represent? 🤔

@GreenFire Heard something like this before from Mr Plausible Denier, in an encouraging tone, “find me some votes, come on, you can do it!!” 😷

@PDFlynn Diversity is a worthy liberal ideal healthy for any democracy. No surprise the conservative court when they got the chance axed 69 years of precedence and progress. 😔

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New details have emerged from the orange chump's attempt to get Arizona to overturn the will of the people in 2020.

It's unknown if Jack Smith has interviewed the ex-governor. Last month, Ducey announced that he is leading a free-enterprise focused political action committee, Citizens for Free Enterprise. washingtonpost.com/nation/2023

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@GayDeceiver I know little about the process but doesn’t The House have to vote on it? That would make it seem to me unlikely at this point.

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Everyday I love the first great Miles Davis Quintet as much as I did the first time I heard them. And every day I love the second great Miles Davis Quintet more than the day before.

#jazz #music #milesdavis

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